Telamonius Plenus
 
Classification:
4 Y-Y[ Double ]
Season:
Early to Mid-Season
Height:
Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Variation:
Daffodil color or division may vary as the bloom reaches full maturity.
Hybridizer:
Unknown
Registered:
Yes, before 1620
Special Classes:
ADS Historics
Chromosomes:
14, 27 or 28
Fertility:
Both Seed and Pollen fertile
Used as parent:
2 times as seed, 14 times as pollen
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Comments:

Doubling varies from partial to completely double; Fl. 100 mm wide; perianth and other petaloid segments ovate, light greenish yellow, white mucro, flushed with slightly darker tone, becoming darker at base, often with green beneath, inflexed, twisted or recurved, separated; cup is funnel-shaped, smooth, vivid yellow, slightly paler at base, sometimes with green at apex, the six segments opposite the perianth segments and bi-lobed, spreading, with rim rolled; the cup filled with petaloid and corona segments in alternate whorls; the petaloid segments longer than the darker corona segments.

A description according to Daffodils, narcissus, and how to grow them as a hardy plants for cut… 1907 by Arthur Martin Kirby, when identified as ‘Double Van Sion’, “This famous double yellow daffodil of old American gardens is also very popular in Europe under the name of ‘Wilmer’s Double Golden Daffodil’ and among the more botanical as N. telamonius plenus, it being the doubled form of a single yellow trumpet called ‘Telamonius’ in England and ‘Van Sion’ in Holland. Like its parents Double Van Sion varies in size, form, and other characteristics accordingly as influenced by environment. Another vagary of the ‘Double Van Sion’ is its tendency to produce flowers tinged with green and sometimes almost all green.

A quote from the January 1966 edition of The American Horticultural Society Magazine: In Section 18 “Daffodils in the Netherlands” at page 175, written by Gustave Springer, writes about what is now known as the synonym ‘Van Sion’: The most famous is of course the double Van Sion (Telamonius Plenus). This amazingly durable variety dates back to 1620 and was first introduced by Vincent Sion. Somehow it was listed as V. Sion and it was inevitable that everyone soon forgot what the “V.” signified. As could be expected V. Sion became Van Sion and for some Von Sion.

Origin of Name:

According to E.A. Bowles’ writings in A Handbook of Narcissus, in 1934, “Its first appearance in England is that chronicled by Parkinson, who tells in the Paradisus that Vincent Sion, a Fleming, living in London, cherished it in his garden for many years before it flowered in the year 1620. He thought that John de Frauqueville might have given him the bulb, but that worthy disclaimed the honor, never having seen the like before. Before his death Van Sion gave bulbs to George Wilmer of Stratford Bowe, and also to Parkinson, who seems somewhat aggrieved that Wilmer ‘would need appropriate it to himself, as if he were the first founder thereof, and call it by his own name Wilmer’s Double Daffodil, which since hath so continued.”

“It was not the only name it was to bear, for Hayworth invented an Ajax Telamon (named after the father of Ajax), but afterwards changed the name to Telamonius. He provided a very poor description for it, and it is hopeless to attempt to recognize any single-flowered form now grown, as his ‘long-flowered’ Ajax. He regarded it as the single form of two doubles, for the first of which, Grandiplenus, the great double, he cites Parkinson’s Fig. 7 on p. 101, called there Master Wilmer’s Great Double Daffodil. Therefore the name, Telamonius Plenus, has been widely used. As there is only Hayworth’s word for connecting it with the intangible Telamonius, it is better to call it by the garden name Van Sion, and to give honor to whom, according to Parkinson, honor is due.”

Synonyms:

‘Centifolio’, ‘De Sion’, ‘Double Van Sion’, ‘Guernsey Cabbage Daffodil’, ‘The Wilmer’s Great Double Daffodil’, ‘Van Sion’, ‘Vincent Sion’, ‘Wilmer’s Double Golden Daffodil’, ‘Wilmer’s Great Double Daffodil’, ‘Wilmot’s Double Daffodil’

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Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Historic Image #16,739 : Gertrude Hartland, Cork, Ireland</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Historic Image: Gertrude Hartland, Cork, Ireland
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #32,382 Mar 04, 2016: Michael Baxter, England, UK</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  DMC-FZ150, Original Size 3994 x 2992, Exposure 1/500 sec, Aperture f/4.2, ISO 160, Focal length 70.3 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Michael Baxter, England, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #11,964 Sep 26, 2007: Ben Blake, California, United States</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  Canon EOS REBEL, Original Size 778 x 522, Exposure 1/1250 sec, Aperture f/6.3, ISO 400, Focal length 135.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Ben Blake, California, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #11,965 Sep 26, 2007: Ben Blake, California, United States</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  Canon EOS REBEL, Original Size 778 x 522, Exposure 1/500 sec, Aperture f/7.1, ISO 400, Focal length 28.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Ben Blake, California, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #11,387 : Old House Gardens Heirloom Bulbs, Michigan, USA</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Old House Gardens Heirloom Bulbs, Michigan, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #23,101 Mar 19, 2011: Bonnie Campbell, Georgia, United States</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  DSC-H5, Original Size 810 x 610, Exposure 1/160 sec, Aperture f/4.0, ISO 125, Focal length 6.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Bonnie Campbell, Georgia, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #12,164 : Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #10,726 : Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #10,725 : Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #10,724 : Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brian S. Duncan, Northern Ireland, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #6,529 : Mary Durtschi, Utah, United States</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Mary Durtschi, Utah, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #8,754 : Drew Mc Farland, Ohio, USA</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Drew Mc Farland, Ohio, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #3,572 : Mary Lou Gripshover, Ohio, United States</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Mary Lou Gripshover, Ohio, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #11,347 Sep 21, 2004: Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  Canon PowerShot G2, Original Size 527 x 586, Exposure 1/13 sec, Aperture f/2.0, Focal length 7.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #20,439 : Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #20,438 : Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Brenda Lyon, New South Wales, Australia
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #9,885 Oct 01, 2003: Noeline McLaren, South Island, New Zealand</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  PENTAX Optio 33L, Original Size 778 x 734, Exposure 1/60 sec, Aperture f/3.4, Focal length 9.6 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Noeline McLaren, South Island, New Zealand
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #22,542 : John F. McLennan, North Island, New Zealand</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: John F. McLennan, North Island, New Zealand
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #16,214 Mar 29, 2009: Hein Meeuwissen, North Holland, the Netherlands</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  Canon EOS 350D DIGITAL, Original Size 778 x 522, Exposure 1/250 sec, Aperture f/14.0, ISO 400, Focal length 49.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Hein Meeuwissen, North Holland, the Netherlands
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #23,072 Apr 20, 2008: Eva Rentschler, Schwarzwald, Germany</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  COOLPIX S51c, Original Size 778 x 586, Exposure 1/400 sec, Aperture f/7.4, ISO 100, Focal length 11.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Eva Rentschler, Schwarzwald, Germany
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #23,073 Apr 20, 2008: Eva Rentschler, Schwarzwald, Germany</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  COOLPIX S51c, Original Size 586 x 442, Exposure 1/500 sec, Aperture f/7.4, ISO 100, Focal length 11.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Eva Rentschler, Schwarzwald, Germany
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #26,014 Mar 29, 2013: Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy</span><br/><span class="ds_text_exif">Properties:  Canon EOS 60D, Original Size 709 x 810, Exposure 1/3 sec, Aperture f/14.0, ISO 100, Focal length 84.0 mm</span><br>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #16,357 : Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #7,747 : Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #7,748 : Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Henry Shejbal, Roma, Italy
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #7,847 : Ian Tyler, England, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Ian Tyler, England, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #8,957 : Ian Tyler, England, UK</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Ian Tyler, England, UK
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #6,131 : Linda Van Beck, Florida, United States</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Linda Van Beck, Florida, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #6,132 : Linda Van Beck, Florida, USA</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Linda Van Beck, Florida, USA
Telamonius Plenus,  4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. <br><span class="ds_text">Photo #6,296 : Willis H. Wheeler, Virginia, USA</span>Telamonius Plenus, 4 Y-Y, Unknown Hybridizer, 1620. 
Photo: Willis H. Wheeler, Virginia, USA